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Circuitbenders Forum => Circuitbending discussion => Topic started by: LoFi-Ninja on July 26, 2009, 08:34:31 PM
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Ok, it seems like getlofi isn't hosting any competition. So why don't we just have our own right here on the board ?
Rules could be as the ones getlofi had, or it could just be within a timeframe.
Prices ? What prices ! Unless someone would like to sponsor something to the winner.
Maybe circuitbenders.co.uk could contact getlofi.com to host a competition togheter !
Ayways, vote !
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C'MON why is nobody voting ? 20 people have read this thread and only one other than me has voted..
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If someone can think up a decent idea for a competition then i'm all for it. In fact there was a thread on here a while back where i was asking for competition ideas but the best ones anyone came up with were competitive commodore Amiga hurling and doing cover versions of Britney Spears songs using circuitbent kit.
I'm not entirely sure what we could do about a prize but i'm sure we can come up with something,
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I'd be interested. It'll give me an excuse to go buy crap to bend.
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Well I think the getlofi method was pretty cool.. 1 day for everything !
But of course it would be cooler to come up with our own concept.. But what are the possebilities ?
Pricez would be really cool.. Would also motivate people, and more would join ! Also, it's good publicity for circuitbenders :-D
Let's hypothetically say we go with a cover version of something.. Should it be performed live (I think so), is computer allowed, what about MIDI or samplers..
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Cover versions of songs would be pretty cool.
How would the judgement play out?
Would there be a Cowellesque fascist entity or would it be via people power?
The 'buy n' bend' approach is a good one.
the winner could get all of the losers bent toys :)
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I'd really be into it if it was a "buy and bend" thing. But I know that was done, so yeah whatev whatev.
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Im so down for a cover/remix competition.
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i like the idea of a cover. would it be only circuit bent or can i use all my gameboy sequencers?
also can i suggest kraftwerk as a subject for the covers
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i like the idea of a cover. would it be only circuit bent or can i use all my gameboy sequencers?
also can i suggest kraftwerk as a subject for the covers
How about any equipment with points awarded for geekyness (nothing for doing it in Reason, several million for doing it in your period-accurate replica of the Putney studio), and any Kraftwerk track?
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yer why not it allows for a good range of stuff
points for geekiness aye? cant wait for my midi commodore 64 cartridge to arrive then
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Surely it'd be more entertaining to do covers of something completely unrelated to electronic music? There'd be a lot more directions to come at it from so people would have to be more original and we'd end up with a lot more variety.
Personally i suspect i could do without listening to a hundred very similar sounding circuitbent versions of the same kraftwerk tracks. Britney Spears sounds like more of a laugh to me.
Or nominate the over-hyped pop phenomena of your choice.....................
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i suppose like a circuit bent version of slayer or something could be amusing. im up for whatever.
we could make a free downloadable album out of the entries
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Or what about "Barbie girl" by Aqua ? That would be pretty funny..
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if we have a theme then we get a variety. i think alot of versions of glitchy barbie girl or womanizer could get boring so dont make the theme tooooo vague
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Or too specific.
As the focus seems to be on a musical track as the finished entry-ready product, I guess that would encourage people to bend keyboards, so perhaps there could be different categories.
Perhaps.. "Craziest sound" and/or "most innovative/interesting bend" , as well as a musical category?
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i think we need someone to make decisions rather than suggestions, I suggest we suggest a decider to suggest decisions
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i think we need someone to make decisions rather than suggestions, I suggest we suggest a decider to suggest decisions
Is that a suggestion or a decision?:)
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I'm deciding we need more suggestions.
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Perhaps...
Basic categories for judgement:
- Asthetic (casing, paintjobs, etc)
- Technical (complexity and/or innovation of bends, producing good results)
- Audiable (pleasing songs/composition or cover. Perhaps two sub-categories, one for a full track, and one for individual sounds [even within a track submission])
This leaves open the questions of:
- What is alllowed to be bent (including budget), and within what time period
- Who judges the competition (public voting or judging panel)
- What covers could be done (pff throwing it out there, Michael Jackson covers? Semi-topical, not bad tracks, and many well known pop tunes
- What material prizes are to be given to the winner(s), except for a consensus of respect
And perhaps more questions, but that's all I can think of right now.
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What covers could be done (pff throwing it out there, Michael Jackson covers? Semi-topical, not bad tracks, and many well known pop tunes
Stroke of genius, that.
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What covers could be done (pff throwing it out there, Michael Jackson covers? Semi-topical, not bad tracks, and many well known pop tunes
Stroke of genius, that.
hehe I went to a hack day in london a short while ago, more than 50% of the hacks were Michael Jackson related - it was funny when everybody presented their work and realised just how much they'd thought that one out
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Reading this made me think of the c64 demo scene. And i though about how cool a similar thing using bent gear could be. It's all being done i guess but i haven't seen it in a community kind of way like the old 64 scene. Maybe not the best idea for a competition given that not everyone can/wants to get involved with visuals too but it could get interesting with people clubbing together to make some good audio/visual work.....
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Circuit bent Michael Jackson covers would be wonderful :D
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Ok, circuitbent Micheal jackson covers it is.
I've got the Technicians of the Museum of Techno (http://www.museumoftechno.org/) onboard to do some judging and put together one of their videos for it, for no other reason than it'll be a laugh.
Any ideas on prizes? It seems a bit pointless to have a circuitbent prize of most people entering will be circuitbenders anyway, although i don't really want to make this exclusively for people who actually circuitbend as it not actually a test of your circuitbending skill.
Which brings me onto the next question. What actually constitutes a 'circuitbent' cover version?
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Would sampling bent instruments and arranging them in something like FL Studio be a no no?
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Perhaps there could be a pure hardware category and another for a mix of sampling and software manipulation.
Bend as many instruments as you want maybe, (those who already have bent instruments available may be at an advantage here), and use them all in conjunction to produce a finshed piece, as one instrument may be damagingly limiting.
I'd assume a circuitbent cover version would consist of a titled expanse of sound submitted via the internet in recorded form (perhaps a video showing the recording event is favoured. I know I'd like to see what's going on).
Mastering the audio of the hardware section (in the case of there being different categories) is debatable, since microphones vary in recording ability and can impare sound, but the judges may take this into account.
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The rules need to be posted soon, I'm aching to get started.
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Has anyone else been listening to Michael Jackson records thinking, "how the hell am I going to recreate this with circuit bent instruments??"
I think it might end up being more of a.. erm.... conceptual piece, based on some famous Michael Jackson chord progressions/riffs? :)
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I've been listening to old childhood classics on youtube now (maybe I should get out more, just maybe), but I've felt nostalgic, and in a Boards of Canada way I feel like I want to indulge in the musical experiences of my childhood, and perhaps do some kind of circuit bent child's program theme tune.
It'd be a lot easier working with a recording/sample than trying to recreate the original music, and I've done this before with the theme to Oakie Doke, however this was on FL Studio and used no hardware..
I feel I might be rambling a bit, but I'm just throwing another idea out there, and I know my circuit bending skills are dismal in comparison to most others on this forum, however I'm happy to be an enthusiastic runner-up.
What does everyone want to do..? Decisions?
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I'm too busy to really put the time into submitting a piece for this if it happens anytime soon, but here are some ideas if it helps:
Without there really being a hub where everybody can meet up, I think we will be restricted to two or three categories hosted online -
There could be a "Music" category, where people submit a soundfile (maybe downloadable and via soundcloud) I think there should be freedom for people to operate here to their own taste as restrictions of style and approach will complicate matters for some individuals - perhaps a simpler restriction like max. length of 1.30mins is more feasible. People could submit a short paragraph describing the work which could be serious/pop/comedy whatever...
There could be a "Bent Machines" category, where you submit a youtube demo video which really should be as high quality as possible and recorded well, judging criteria could be originality, sound, quality and/or usability.
A third category if not merged with the one above could be "Paint Jobs" in a pimp my casio style where high res photo's are submitted.
As for judges, I think there should be more than one - either some people are invited to judge the competition for us (I don't have any suggestions sorry) or we just keep it within the forum with the judges obviously not being allowed to submit anything within the categories they host - obviously some credibility would be good
Prizes - well if it's going to be hosted online and there will be no monetary exchange between anyone I think it should go ahead without, I know it sucks a bit but otherwise this topic is going to go around in circles forever unless someone steps forward and donates something!! I think a title should be worthy enough "Bent Pimp of the Year"?
Aid
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I'd be interested in providing space in my venue if there's interest in it being a real time, perhaps webcast event. We could provide performance space and facilities too.
We're located in the South East, 25 miles west of London, fairly easy to get to as we have junctions from both M3 and M4 within 3 miles and BR from either Waterloo or Reading. I've also set up discounted accomodation with a local hotel, so people could stop over fairly cheaply.
http://www.southhillpark.org.uk (http://www.southhillpark.org.uk)
http://www.digitalmediacentre.org (http://www.digitalmediacentre.org)
Drop me a line with any thoughts.
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That would be awesome. Anyone care to fly me out to London?
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I'd be interested in providing space in my venue if there's interest in it being a real time, perhaps webcast event. We could provide performance space and facilities too.
We're located in the South East, 25 miles west of London, fairly easy to get to as we have junctions from both M3 and M4 within 3 miles and BR from either Waterloo or Reading. I've also set up discounted accomodation with a local hotel, so people could stop over fairly cheaply.
At first I was like ;D but then I was like :-[ and then I was like :o but now im back to :(
Seeing London made me realize it wont be possible for me to come, but then I saw Waterloo, which was exciting because there are two towns in Ontario(canada) that are relatively close to each other named Waterloo and London so it gave some hope itd be close to me but then I saw your website and realized most def not happening in Canada.
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If it happens in London I will definitely come, I'll be traveling across the country though
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I think it would be great to have an event with Skype video calls and blogging going on alongside from people who can't be there in person. But anyhow, it's obviously not exactly my idea, but it sounds cool so I'd support it if there's any interest.
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I was thinking about doing a circuit bending competition through my label, Audio Sodomy Records. I wanted to just have one like the last one (Bend something, show it to us, win). Would people be interested in that? I'll try to hammer out the details (if you want to give some input with it, go ahead, the more opinions the merrier).