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Simon Vactrol

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Suggestions about cross bending.
« on: November 19, 2010, 07:13:58 PM »

 Hi everyone Is Simon Here!

Just wanted to know if anyone have suggestions about crossbending...i have 2 yamaha pss (same model "pss7) and i will like to experiment and cross them..but not sure of the risk...any help?

thanks!
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »

Presumably it'd help if you have a common ground and i'd stay away from the positive voltage rail if i were you. You might have some luck with the data pins of the FM synth chip, if the PSS7 has one
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 10:37:27 PM »

Thanks for the reply!
It give me a good idea of what i'm heading for..
So, i Need a common ground to start with..

Would be fine then connect both ground of the keyboards?

Still feeling a B confused..but is a good start.

cheers!
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 07:21:01 PM »

Fiinally have bent both.. i had some spare spray paint and i've been slightly gazalesque!! ;)


what to do next?...just find a ground and poke around on The 4 chips?

hope someone like to help me....
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 08:27:41 PM »

they look like Casio keyboards to me.
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 08:56:39 PM »

well anything that works on one might also work cross bent onto the other. Ground one to the other and poke around, although looking at them i'd be surprised if you can do that much.

Having never bent one or even seen inside one i can't really tell you much more.
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 10:36:10 PM »

in my opinion fun starts when you crossbent totally differend machines, like fm and pcm chips
for the unpredictable madness :P ok, sometimes you blow something, it's always a sad moment..
but after all their just worthless toys, who cares..
thats why it is better to experiment before pimping
anyway good luck and don't forget to drop here a mp3 with the results ;)
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 11:15:03 PM »

thank you both for give me  infos and hints...i already feel like do it.
Thanks !

The idea i have is to cross the crash points and see if i can blend them with a potentiometer or if i can "glitch Vs glitgh" them , i dont think there is much to do too but as start  i think will do it...if the result is positive i'll make a video of them and i'll post it here...with a note about the discover.


speak soon....


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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 08:02:33 PM »

Nothing really happened..
just few changes on the stereo frequencies..
nothing-really-exciting! :(

and that is the problem!!

(inevitably)"""I'm asking myself few questions...:
what could be a good target for a crossbender beginner?
What are the basic requirement a machine need to be crossbendable?"""

I dont know the answer yet but i think i will give it a go again..any suggestion?


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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 08:36:31 PM »

well you could try with a portasound fm type keyboard
mix the fm datalines with pcm samples of another keyboard
i think you will have interesting results if you cross things before the d/a converter
and why not connect an antenna to one of the datalines.. see how it reacts to your cellphone etc
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2010, 11:38:22 PM »



(inevitably)"""I'm asking myself few questions...:
what could be a good target for a crossbender beginner?

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the sound of cross bent Korg DDD-1's.  Check out my youtube page for some examples.
2x DDD-1 retro cross bending + midi sync for sale

So easy to get a good sound that doesn't sound anything like the bends you get by just bending inside the box.

I've crossbent DDD-1's and DDD-5's and every time I find a different, cool sound.
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 10:31:22 PM »

...Apparently the situation can go really nasty mmm! thanks for that video Noisebeast ,and thanks to you too nochtanseenspecht..you guys have read my mind!

Let me please unveil the reason why i wanted to talk about crossbending on this post then:

I currently have A KORG DDM 220 I've "semi-bent"  and a Korg DDM 110 on the operation table "scan started"
The idea was have them bent and then lightly crossbent..
Also some of my pss are about to get the same treatment..

..i can say i have the basic informations:
Connect grounds.  
Make sure to stay away from the positive voltage rail.
FM and PCM  chips are a good sign of crossbendability
Good!  
Is gonna happen!!

(inevitably)-(inevitably questions)"""What about current flowing from one machine to another...can a voltagemeter be an instrument to reduce the risk of frying it?
Should i just do it... is all about experimentation?

Video Pictures Advices MP3 or something on topic will help too..


Acipitrum insulA Bent Korg DDM220









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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 09:18:48 PM »

To those have recived Negative Karma from me...

I think i've just click on the wrong button...my intention was give you positive karma...so i push applaud or smile i don't remember..I will like to apologize for the inconvenient and ask the owner of the forum to delete my vote or redirect it to positive as i wanted to do!

( :-[) sorry for the inconvenient guys!!

Siix.




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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 09:49:07 PM »

thats SMITE not 'smile', which i think might be part of the confusion there  ;)

Applaud is positive, smite is negative.

I've removed the negative ones that it looks like you've given in error.
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Re: Suggestions about cross bending.
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 12:26:51 PM »

...OOOuCHH!!
Thanks Paul!
i really appreciate that!




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